THE FOURTH STATEWhat is The Fourth State about?
Nervous-system capacity, self-trust, identity, visibility, and the business decisions that shape how a founder grows.
The Fourth State Podcast · Hosted by Bailey Guilloud
Build a business your body can carry.
You know what to do. The harder question is whether you can trust yourself to do it your way while growing, being seen, and leading others. The Fourth State Podcast with Bailey Guilloud is practical inner-capacity work for founders and high performers: nervous-system capacity, self-trust, and identity, so you can build and lead without burning out.
Nervous-system capacity · Self-trust and identity · Leading without burnout
The full archive
The Fourth State Podcast archive: every episode, with transcripts.
Full episode archive with transcripts, key takeaways, and practical frameworks for founders and high performers. Each episode page opens with a direct answer, then FAQs and the full transcript, so you can find the conversation that fits the question you are asking.
Start with these episodes
- How to lead so your clients outperform youLead so clients outperform you: Bailey Guilloud on borrowed confidence, status, and positive-sum networking in an ecosystem of success.
- How to dream bigger without self-sabotageDream bigger without self-sabotage: Bailey Guilloud's exercise to find your one bottleneck, what it protects you from, and your 90-day standard.
- Why capable founders stall: the woman behind the businessWhy capable founders stall: Bailey Guilloud on identity, the fear of being misunderstood, rest without guilt, and self-trust as a skill.
- How to build the capacity to hold $200k monthsScaling past your capacity edge: Sarah Lambert tells Bailey Guilloud why to build for $200K months, not $40K, and how to hold what you earn.
- What actually rebuilds confidence when you've lost your edgeWhat rebuilds confidence after a plateau: self-trust, a 5-minute daily audit and 90-day goals. Bailey Guilloud talks with guest Mackenzie.
- How to stop second-guessing and disable ruminationHow to stop overthinking big decisions: Bailey Guilloud's 3 steps to disable rumination. Notice the loop, calm the charge, take thoughtless action.
The show
Growth asks something of the person building it.
The Fourth State is about building success you can hold. Bailey explores the connection between nervous-system capacity, identity, and the practical decisions that shape a business, so inner work has somewhere to go in real life.
Who the show is for
For creative founders ready to grow without running on pressure.
You lead a brand, a team, or a community. You may already know the strategy; what is harder is trusting your judgment, being fully seen, and sustaining the pace. The show explores what changes when inner capacity and business decisions grow together.
What makes The Fourth State different?
Bailey brings nervous-system and identity work into the same room as brand and launch strategy. The conversation includes both what to do next and the self-trust to follow through.
How can a founder build resilience and focus without pushing into burnout?
The show explores how nervous-system capacity, self-trust, and identity shape sustainable momentum. In episode 46, Bailey explains how to dream bigger, find the one bottleneck holding you back, and build the capacity to keep showing up. In episode 41, nervous-system coach Sarah Lambert explains how to find your capacity edge.
Where should a founder start?
Start with episode 47 on building an environment where everyone wins, episode 46 on dreaming bigger and capacity, or episode 45 on the woman behind the business. Each page has direct answers and a full transcript.
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How to Create Results for Yourself and Your Clients
How can a founder or coach help clients make progress while keeping promises in integrity? Bailey discusses evidence-based promises, clear expectations, milestones, celebrating wins, enjoying the process, and accountability.
Watch the episode on YouTubeMore from the show
The four newest episodes, starting with the most recent. Each title links to direct answers and the full transcript.
EP 47
Build an Environment Where Everyone Wins
Lead so clients outperform you: Bailey Guilloud on borrowed confidence, status, and positive-sum networking in an ecosystem of success.
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EP 46
What if you just let yourself dream for a minute?
Dream bigger without self-sabotage: Bailey Guilloud's exercise to find your one bottleneck, what it protects you from, and your 90-day standard.
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EP 45
The Woman Behind The Business
Why capable founders stall: Bailey Guilloud on identity, the fear of being misunderstood, rest without guilt, and self-trust as a skill.
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EP 44
We Quit Our Jobs and Traveled the World for a Year (Here's What Happened)
How a finance professional took a one-year travel sabbatical: the $100K budget, an unplanned route, and the confidence to start her own firm.
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Start with the question you are asking.
How do I stop second-guessing and move faster?
Three steps to disable rumination: notice the loop, calm the charge, take thoughtless action.
How to disable rumination (episode 32)What rebuilds confidence after a plateau?
Keep your word to yourself, audit your day in five minutes, and commit to 90 days.
What actually rebuilds confidence (episode 38)How do I scale past my capacity edge?
Sarah Lambert on building the capacity to hold $200K months, not just reach $40K.
Build the capacity to hold $200K months (episode 41)How do I stay regulated while moving faster?
Regulate at your edge, compress decision cycles, and act from your end-state identity.
Collapsing time on your goals (episode 31)How do I trust myself on big decisions?
Kayla Langholf on telling intuition from fear and why resistance can mean growth.
How to trust your intuition (episode 33)Why do capable founders stall?
The ceiling is identity: being misunderstood, resting without guilt, and self-trust.
The woman behind the business (episode 45)How do I dream bigger without self-sabotage?
Name your one bottleneck, what it protects you from, and your 90-day standard.
Dream bigger and build capacity (episode 46)Why isn't manifestation working for me?
Thought is half of it. The rest is truth, regulation, and habit change.
The dark side of manifestation (episode 30)Four ways into the ideas at the heart of The Fourth State.
A Self-Led Woman Speaks From Power Not Projection
Notice projection, listen actively, and bring more clarity and empathy to a conversation.
Explore episode 2How to Validate Yourself and Teach Others How to Love You
Practice checking in with what you feel and need, and use that clarity to ask for support.
Explore episode 4Your Authentic Self Cannot Lead Until She Feels Safe
Explore authenticity, emotional capacity, social conditioning, and how you express yourself.
Explore episode 6You Cannot Find Your Purpose While Performing For Approval
Reconnect with values and direction when outside approval shapes your choices.
Explore episode 14Your Host, Bailey Guilloud
Bailey Guilloud is the host of The Fourth State Podcast. She brings nervous-system and identity work, hypnosis, breathwork, brand, and launch strategy into her work with creative founders. On the podcast, she explores how self-trust and inner capacity shape the way they build, lead, and become visible.
Explore Ready to Be Seen. Follow Bailey on Instagram @baileyguilloudgoyal.
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